🌀 UniJoin Stopped Working

[icopress]

Website, Tor, Telegram channel and Twitter stopped working (obviously this is not a glitch). Given the fact that Samurai and Wasabi ceased their work, I would not be surprised if it turns out that UniJoin also closed for this reason (although I do not exclude other scenarios). I'm not sure what the reason is yet because I can't contact UniJoin.


https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial - Original Twitter account was
https://twitter.com/unijoin_io - Fraud (notice in case someone thinks that any official announcements are coming from this account).

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[paid2]

Here is the FR translation of OP: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314466.msg1460100#msg1460100

I would like to add, that Unijoin writes excellents articles on various crypto-related topics: sometimes about privacy, OPSEC management, history of cypherpunks, XMR etc...
The link of their blog: https://unijoin.medium.com/

I strongly recommand to read their articles! 

[epidemia]

This is the translation of the post into Ukrainian — https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314533.0

Good luck! 

[IyemRoker]

I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website

But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks

[paid2]

I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website

But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks

Yeah indeed Unijoin is using Coinjoin to increase privacy on BTC blockchain. There are other ways of doing mixing, like Chipmixer (using "chips") at the time, which was completely different from Unijoin in the way it worked.

If you want more infos about BTC mixing:
Decent mixing methods
This video is great, explains a lot about how privacy works with BTC:

Privacy on Monero vs Bitcoin with Seth for Privacy

I don't know how it will work for ERC20 tokens, for sure with a smart contract, but what will be inside the said smart contract is the real question.. I am also curious

[IyemRoker]

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I don't know how it will work for ERC20 tokens, for sure with a smart contract, but what will be inside the said smart contract is the real question.. I am also curious

Well, this is the same question from me. Namely, it is in the Smart Contracts which have definitely been validated by people who are well-known among cryptocurrency enthusiasts. Will the famous person who handles Smarcontracts be responsible for any suspicious transactions??

For example, for Ethereum, every transaction on TORNADO must round off the transaction number, such as 0.1 - 0.2 - 0.3 - 0.4 - 0.5 - 1, 2, 3, 4 ETH and so on from Ethereum for transactions so that can be Anonymous with the numbers.

But for USDT, does it have to be rounded up or not for each transaction??
For example, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, 1000, 10000 USDT and so on so you can be anonymous. Let's discuss mate 

[paid2]

Well, this is the same question from me. Namely, it is in the Smart Contracts which have definitely been validated by people who are well-known among cryptocurrency enthusiasts. Will the famous person who handles Smarcontracts be responsible for any suspicious transactions??

For example, for Ethereum, every transaction on TORNADO must round off the transaction number, such as 0.1 - 0.2 - 0.3 - 0.4 - 0.5 - 1, 2, 3, 4 ETH and so on from Ethereum for transactions so that can be Anonymous with the numbers.

But for USDT, does it have to be rounded up or not for each transaction??
For example, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, 1000, 10000 USDT and so on so you can be anonymous. Let's discuss mate 

Yeah I hope that Unijoin will join us on this forum. I'm also extremely curious about altcoins mixing, as it's something I've never used before.
In any case, once the service will be available to users, I'm sure they'll talk about it, and explain how it works and give more details

[examplens]

I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website

But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks

That option is not possible, "soon" has been there for quite a long time, maybe even from the very beginning.
I think they even stated somewhere that they will not develop these possibilities. But of course, the best thing is to wait for their officials to give direct answers.

[Cantsay]

 

This is the translation of the post into Ukrainian — https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314533.0

Good luck! 

@icopress, given that other local boards have started translating Ann thread to local languages and Unijoin already has a pidgin translated thread in Bitcointalk, I've sent a private message to @Sokani, requesting that he brings the thread over to this forum as the Op (since he was the one that did all the work over there).

[Sokani]

Here's the pidgin translation of the ANN on my local board: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314752.0

[aiviaa485]

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That option is not possible, "soon" has been there for quite a long time, maybe even from the very beginning.
I think they even stated somewhere that they will not develop these possibilities. But of course, the best thing is to wait for their officials to give direct answers.

The same thoughts as you because this stable coin has Smartcontracts which can easily detect the USDT at any time when it is transacted.
Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.

More precisely, we have to wait for the approval of the answer from the #DevelopmentTeam  for this UniJoin project, good luck mate.

[paid2]

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Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.

Absolutely, that's why DAI (on Polygon network if we want it to be cheap to use) is a best alternative for now

[aiviaa485]

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Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.

Absolutely, that's why DAI (on Polygon network if we want it to be cheap to use) is a best alternative for now

Im sorry to be out off topic, is it true that DAI is a stable coin Anonymous?
If it is really Anonymous, can you explain in detail how the Anonymous stable coin DAI works?

Because the UniJoin feature has a Mixer for USDT, so there will definitely be comparisons with various other stable coins, what's more, DAI is said to be an anonymous stable coin (so maybe you don't need to use the USDT Mixer, just use the DAI for every transaction you make),if we want to keep it a secret.

[notblox1]

Great to see Unijoin in this forum!
Maybe it takes some time for everyone to get used to new altcoinstalk forum, but we can just move on and continue from bitcointalk.

When I used Unijoin I saw captcha images I had to solve and it was not that easy, I failed ten times.
Maybe this is protection against spam attacks but it is not good if I need to mix my coins faster and I never liked solving captchas. 

Unijon was not giving me option to choose my own fees for using their service and I prefer to choose it myself, not always randomly.
Sometimes I want to have more privacy and I will pay 3% fee, but other times I just want to pay minimal fee with basic mixing.
Maybe Unijon did random fee generation because of better privacy, but I would give customers more options to choose.
Unijon referral links are good way for everyone who wants to earn extra 5% to 10% on fees.
I didnt have any problems using Unijon website and I like privacy service offered by Unijon but fees for bitcoin transactions can be very high,
and maybe this is the perfect time to add  mixing for other coins listed on website, Ethereum, Litecoin and Tether.
Many people around the world are using USDT everyday and I dont know many good services who can offer more private Tether.
I want the option to send Litecoin and receive Tether or any other coin available on Unijon.

Are there any news when can we expect new coins to be added on Unijoin?

[paid2]

Im sorry to be out off topic, is it true that DAI is a stable coin Anonymous?
If it is really Anonymous, can you explain in detail how the Anonymous stable coin DAI works?

I don't want to derail this topic too much, but DAI is not anonymous but pseudonymous. It's just "less worse" than USDT because it is differently backed and it is more decentralised. DAI's blockchain is public.
Tether can, for example, freeze your USDTs if they are flagged by a service or agency. We can discuss it in the altcoin section of the forum if you want!


If you want some articles on privacy coins : Best privacy coins, How Do Privacy Coins Work?